so, you know, i'm sorry, but this whole sort of terra image of this doomed romantic world simply isn't accurate. we, as a nation, were all culpable in this. we were all dependent on this system of forced labor. so i think that's, you know -- when you talk about the continuum, this is a story, yes, that begins, well, in jamestown in 1619, but really with the revolution and then the constitution where they sort of fudge the slavery issue. one of the most remarkable things about the constitution is they don't mention of word slave or slavery in the entire document, even though it comes up in the very first article. so right from the beginning, they were aware that we have a contradiction here. we were creating a nation that's ostensibly pledged to liberty and equality except for this huge exception.